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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:51 am    Post subject: Any notes for blast beats? Reply with quote
Hello, I was wondering if you maybe have some notes for different kinds of blast beats. I was reading the topics and I found something like suffocatiopn blasts bomb blasts- but no one tells how to play them. I heard that the transcritpions are on Derek Roddys forum but I cant open it. Sad
So if you have some transcriptions of blast beats then I would be very happyy Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have no transcriptions but offer my advice... Simply listen to it. Although blast beats vary from person to person... they're not that hard to figure out.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I had these up on another forum, and recently posted them to the Pearl forum in a speed/blast related type thread (aren't they all about speed??) All the examples here are in 4/4 time, but the same would apply to 6/8 or 12/8 time where the emphasis is on 3's (no they are not 12th notes, no such thing).

Single foot alternating hands blast (what many call grind).


Double Bass Cannibal style blast. Hands in unison doing 8th notes, feet are playing 16th notes.


Bomb Blast. 16th notes with both hands and feet with the snare on the downbeats and ride/hi-hat on the offbeats.


One footed Suffocation style blasts. Hands and right foot in unison playing 8th notes. This one is not all that common, most people split the feet, see below.


Now there are plenty of fast drummers doing split foot blasts, since the feet are not going that fast. If the hands are playing 280 or 300bpm in 8th notes, split foot, the feet are only going 140 or 150bpm which is not physically demanding at all. The actually challenge is in the coordination.

Alternating hands blast with feet split. The right hand and feet are playing the same tempo. This is what Behemoth and the other black metal drummers are doing during those crazy tempos.


And the most common blast where drummers are playing 260 and up. Suffocation blast while the feet are split. When cranked up in tempo to 280 and up it's 'hyperblasting'
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks Smile
So for all this time I've been playing only grinds and alternate hands blast Smile. Well maybe thats because I'm not in a death metal band( I play rock Wink but I like the "death metal" workout( getting workout on double bass and stamina on hands while doing blasts Smile
Thanks a lot, I'm checkin those blast right away Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Looking at your signature, you seem to have the same kit as me. Can we get some pics up?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
mental wrote:
Looking at your signature, you seem to have the same kit as me. Can we get some pics up?


Sure


I'm left handed so this may look a bit odd Wink
This is Antique Ivory colour. What colour are yours?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Shalaq wrote:
mental wrote:
Looking at your signature, you seem to have the same kit as me. Can we get some pics up?


Sure


I'm left handed so this may look a bit odd Wink
This is Antique Ivory colour. What colour are yours?


Another lefty Cool Nice set.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nice kit. Mapex is lovely

My kit is in "Transparent diamond blue" (it's no longer avalible) (it's actually a transparent green fade). You can find a (bad) pic of it in the set ups section. I'll trie get some good pics of it when I move it to a bigger place and get my new ride at it.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
There's also the variation of the normal blast with split foot and snare on e -a but the ride will be doing patterns different than the usual 1 - &.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
MATHCORE wrote:
There's also the variation of the normal blast with split foot and snare on e -a but the ride will be doing patterns different than the usual 1 - &.
can you explain? i wonder if it was the one i was thinking of...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sure. It's basically the blast from the fifth chart on this thread, but the top line that corresponds to the hi-hat or ride cymbal is gonna be different, so just put there any broken up pattern you like instead the 1 & 2 &... that way you trade the unison of cymbal and kicks for a different drum part that will demand higher dexterity to be played but will still be a blast beat because the kicks and the snare are the same.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
MATHCORE wrote:
Sure. It's basically the blast from the fifth chart on this thread, but the top line that corresponds to the hi-hat or ride cymbal is gonna be different, so just put there any broken up pattern you like instead the 1 & 2 &... that way you trade the unison of cymbal and kicks for a different drum part that will demand higher dexterity to be played but will still be a blast beat because the kicks and the snare are the same.


Very true. I just posted the most common ones to get people started. While breaking up the ride is brain/independence challenging, it's physically less demanding since one limb is getting little breaks here and there every measure. A few patterns to use, based on 4 ride hits counting as a phrase (2 beats out of 4 in 4/4 time)

Leave out every 4th ride hit, for a 1e& 2e& 3e& 4e& feel.
Leave out every 2nd for the Iron Maiden style gallop 1 &a 2 &a 3 &a 4 &a
Leave out the middle two for a samba feel 1 a 2 a 3 a 4 a
Upbeat feel, Leave out the 1st and 3rd. This one is Hard! You can't use the ride/hi-hat to accent the 1 of each beat or measure.

Reverse the Bomb Blats so the hi-hat/ride is first and the snare does the fill in's. Basically example number 1 with the added left foot hitting in unison with the snare.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm gonna try that upbeat feel today!!! Plus Karma to U man!
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2005 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Try playing swiss army triplets while doings alternating double kicks. It has a different kind of feel to it and it sounds really neat when playing the triplets as regular 16ths.
I'm also a fan of the 'grind' blast but adding 16th note double bass drum here and there to up the dynamic.
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